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Sam (Guest)
20-05-02, 08:49 AM
I was wondering what type of saddle all the dressage riders out there use, specifically for horses 17hh+. I'm on the look out for a new one, as my current Keiffer Rhein has been out grown by my rather large 17.1hh 5yr old broad warmlood. Anyone have a favourite??

Lauren (Guest)
20-05-02, 09:18 AM
hi i use the ambassador on my 16.2 and fits perfect they are the most stunning saddles, but they are worth a lot.

princess (Guest)
20-05-02, 10:44 AM
on a huge 17.2 warmblood my friend used a bates maestro
this horse was like an elephant

Sam (Guest)
20-05-02, 10:57 AM
Hi Lauren, Thanks for your reply. What is the price on a Ambassador? I have spoken to one person here (NZ) and she swears by hers, although we have to get them from overseas, as they are not available her. That I know of.

Lauren (Guest)
20-05-02, 01:04 PM
i paid $3700 for mine,

lisa (Guest)
20-05-02, 01:19 PM
Any dressage saddle by Peter Horobin would be made to fit. I love his saddles on my big WB

Sam (Guest)
20-05-02, 11:55 PM
Thanks Lisa, I'll take a look at his, the only thing is I live in NZ so it may be a wee bit of trouble getting a saddle custom made in Aus.

Chicky (Guest)
21-05-02, 03:01 AM
Sam, I understand where you are coming from about the size. We have a 17.3hh hack that is enourmous!
For training I use a Trainers Baron which fits really well and for showing I have an Ambassodor Dressage which also fits great.
I highly reccommend Ambassadors for their comfort for both horse and rider and also because they look fantastic.

Jane (Guest)
21-05-02, 03:32 AM
Hi Sam, the Ambassadors are available from a saddlery in NZ - don't know how they source them. I can't remember what site, I found them when I was hunting down isabels. It would either be Clarkes Saddlery down south, or Stirrups from up north (I think). Check both sites out, if not those a search should find them. They had a whole range of ambassadors on the website, I think prices were $3500 up.

Kristen McAuslan (Guest)
21-05-02, 03:42 AM
I recently purchased a leather Isabell Werth dressage saddle, which I absolutely love to death. I have 4 horses that I ride and unfortunately I cannot afford to have a saddle fitted for each of them so they just have to make do!
They are all different sizes and shapes.
I have a 15.3hh TB who is fairly solid and short in the back, but still has the TB type wither. At the the moment he is my main competition horse and I have not had any problems with it on him as yet.
I also have a 16.1hh ISH who is very solid with no wither and a longish back, I dont think he would care what kind of saddle I used on him because he doesnt feel a thing, lol.
I also have a 16.3hh 2 1/2 year old (still growing) Warmblood colt who is a finer type of Warmblood but still not narrow, short back, medium wither. I will be using the same saddle on him aswell when he comes home from the breakers' house.
I have another TB mare who is 15.3hh, high wither, narrow back, fairly light build and I have not had any problems with it on her yet either.

The Isabell is a beautiful saddle to sit in but I would probably not recommend it for a horse who has a very low wither and is a little rump high as it could tend to sit too low at the front.

I guess with any saddle it is just a matter of trial and error.

Flocky
21-05-02, 03:43 AM
ANKY!

I have had my Anky fit from 14hh upwards to 17.2hh.... and that's with the Extra Wide Gullet....

Hope this helps...

Danielle (Guest)
21-05-02, 03:44 AM
KN Saddle (excellent), will fit a big horse very well. Had a lesson in one with Richards Weiss last year and he commented that this is his favorite saddle. Puts you in a very correct position.

The other saddle I can recommend is the Otto Schumaker (Hannovarian Riding Wear). Can adjust to fit your horse comfortably. Fantastic saddle!!

Waterstar (Guest)
21-05-02, 03:54 AM
Hi!
Ok I have the leather Issabel and it's beautiful. It sits you nice and deep and close to the horse. The horse can kick up it's legs, muck around, jump about or behave like an angel and you stay in the exact same postition! First couple of rides in it my legs felt like they were cramping as it pulls the thigh down so much longer. My riding has certainly improved since riding in the Isabell.
I also have to ride in the Anky every now and then and although it has a very soft seat, i don't feel like it has as much support for the legs. Just my opinion though!

Berni (Guest)
21-05-02, 03:58 AM
Having recently had Peter fit a saddle for Avalanche, I was surprised at just what is involved in getting it right!

It is hard to imagine a horse working well if the saddle does not fit. So do yourself and your horse a favour ask the expert ... we are very lucky to have such a skilled specialist saddle maker in this country and a custom made PH saddle is no more expensive than one bought off the rack.
[http://www.cyberhorse.net.au/horobin/index.htm]

KB (Guest)
21-05-02, 04:41 AM
I have just been through the dressage saddle saga. I have a 17hh Irish sport & I bought a KN. It is fabulous. The reason I bought this was it was so well made and price wise I would get my money back on it tomorrow (I imported it as it was cheaper than buying locally).

I tried all the Bates. Isabella made me sit too forward, I liked the Maestro & Precieux but the width was too small for my horse. I tried a Kieffer and couldn't get my leg on. I tried the Klimke & found it was too wide for me. I didn't go down the Peter Horiban path.

The best advice I can give anyone trying a saddle is try as many saddles as you can. Find one you like to ride in and fits your horse. Don't listen to too many people as it gets too confusing. Everyones body is built differently and all saddles are made to fit different riders & horses. My friend has an Isabella and loves it and yet it pinched my leg and made me sit forward?
Decide on one that you feel comfortable in and suits the horse.

www.divosa.com is the site I bought my saddle from, have a look.

Good luck

Amy (Guest)
21-05-02, 06:11 AM
It depends on how wide the ribcage of the horse is. You need to fit the saddle accordlingly. The Bates saddles are all on medium trees which fit none of my horses. WBs & ISH. If you need a wide saddle the wide treed KN is the way to go. Nothing else comes near.
I am constantly shocked at how many WBs I see in Isabels. They cannot possibly fit properly :-(

Kelley (Guest)
21-05-02, 06:24 AM
I put my hand up for Laser - an English made saddle which is adjustable in the gullet through the use of an allen key - no taking out of parts or anything, just turning a key. Has a very wide channel and opens more widely in the gullet than anything else on the market if you have a HUGE horse.

But irregardless of what saddle you go for - make sure that it fits your horse correctly and is comfortable and correctly fitting for the horse before the rider's comfort.