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Kelly Bick
13-06-14, 09:04 AM
Such as smart and simple method http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4FUE-OrXRw

and this one is a great one from the same Uni on 2 stage weaning of cattle. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPsw3VfjH8s

Apart from the welfare aspect of lowering stress, it has to be a smart economic move (less stress = bigger healthier cattle) to develop, adopt and utilise really simple but innovative techniques like this.

Cheers
Kelly

cyrus
13-06-14, 10:06 AM
Very clever thinking :)

illinga
13-06-14, 10:14 AM
Nice to see such a well thought out, well presented idea like this. I used to wean dairy calves by gradually giving less milk over a week and then stopping. They were on a calf pellet/grain pretty much from birth, so with getting fed every day with grain they didn't really miss the milk.

Found this video after watching the other one's and this how you DON'T halter train a heifer. This guy is a complete and utter goose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38iPMcZsKZc

mindari
13-06-14, 10:34 AM
Very clever thinking :)

simply brilliant, was thinking it would work great on the ones you have in the herd who will milk thieve when a new calf arrives too.

Harriette
13-06-14, 11:06 AM
What an epic discovery. And so simple.

mindari
13-06-14, 11:26 AM
anyone know an australian supplier? we want to get them for next week

mindari
13-06-14, 11:30 AM
Nice to see such a well thought out, well presented idea like this. I used to wean dairy calves by gradually giving less milk over a week and then stopping. They were on a calf pellet/grain pretty much from birth, so with getting fed every day with grain they didn't really miss the milk.

Found this video after watching the other one's and this how you DON'T halter train a heifer. This guy is a complete and utter goose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38iPMcZsKZc

he and her owners obviously never heard of not keeping let alone not breeding from cattle with a large flight zone. what a waste of time and effort. such cattle waste so much nervous energy they arent worth keeping let alone breeding from , select for calm quiet cattle and suprise suprise you dont heifers like her.

she is the kind of animal the bull fighting breeders select for.

Reata
13-06-14, 01:33 PM
Thanks for sharing Kelly, what a simple and brilliant idea.
As for the other guy, I would like to get one of those halters on him!!!

cocomist
13-06-14, 05:05 PM
A pity someone didn't come with it before .... love the ideas. Stress on cattle makes such a huge difference.

For years dad's done home kills, but the beast usually has to be sent away to be killed and then cut up. You always have to make sure that the beast you send away is in peak condition for eating. The last time he did one, he found a mobile butcher. They came out to the farm, and it was all done onsite. It was quick, and low stress and the meat from it was the most tender he's ever had. And this was a beast that was not in what I would call optimum condition. He was by no means poor, but not at his peak. Dad reckons he'll never send one away again. Of course it costs more, but is definitely worth it.

Kelly Bick
13-06-14, 06:23 PM
anyone know an australian supplier? we want to get them for next week

No idea, but I did catch the name on the nose tag "Quiet Wean". So I Googled it and here is the Canadian manufacturer and supplier http://quietwean.com/ Perhaps they can put you in contact with an Australian contact, or post a bag or two of them out to you?

Harriette
13-06-14, 07:59 PM
Get Mr Abbot to pick some up.

dante
13-06-14, 08:00 PM
Very neat, and reminiscent of the foal creep feeders, which were just a yard with either a narrower , foal size gate, or a rail over the gate to keep the mares out so foal could eat their own feed in peace.

Rosinante
14-06-14, 11:16 AM
Thanks for sharing that Kelly. What fantastically simple ideas! So low stress ... Has to be better for the calves :)

I've seen those nose tags on calves somewhere before and didn't know what they were for? So they must be available in Oz.

illinga
14-06-14, 11:48 AM
Thanks for sharing that Kelly. What fantastically simple ideas! So low stress ... Has to be better for the calves :)

I've seen those nose tags on calves somewhere before and didn't know what they were for? So they must be available in Oz.

We've had nose tags similar to that for years in Aus. They were designed to be used for dairy calves that sucked navels/teats of other calves. I can't remember what their name is though.

Kelly Bick
14-06-14, 02:51 PM
Hmm....ok, so searched "nose tags weaning calves Australia"

Here is one Australian version (can't find any others) http://easywean.com.au/how-easywean-works/weaning-calves-using-noserings/. Looks a bit more like a piece of S&M equipment than the Canadian version :eek: (although I am sure it is quite benign), and a little bit more fiddly to put on......but same concept and same result.

Actually, that Australian version reminded me of a weaning halter I can across a few years back while surfing around for thoughts/ideas/research on weaning foals. http://www.infohorse.com/weaningfoals.asp (scroll down page for picture). Again, looks "Barbaric", but I reckon it has a lot of merit in it.

MMC
14-06-14, 07:00 PM
I have always wondered with those nose rings, whether the cow just gets adverse to feeding a calf.

The next one she has, wouldn't she associate pain with feeding and boot away the new one? Perhaps the maternal instinct it too strong?

mindari
14-06-14, 11:44 PM
I have always wondered with those nose rings, whether the cow just gets adverse to feeding a calf.

The next one she has, wouldn't she associate pain with feeding and boot away the new one? Perhaps the maternal instinct it too strong?

I dont like the ones with the prongs because to me they look like a calf or a foal rubbing them on fences could get them caught. might end up with getting it out best scenario or torn nose worst scenario.

I like the canadian design because they dont have anything to catch on. you dont need things to hurt the mum, the quietwean stops the calf getting its tongue around the teat. job done