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worried mum (Guest)
08-07-02, 01:07 PM
Does anybody know if EPM- Equine Protozoal Myeloencephalitis, if it has been diagnosed here in Australia? I know it is common (to a certain extent) in the USA.

I'm also trying to find out about Wobblers Syndrome- What do people know about it? What experiences have people had with wobblers? Are there any treatments or management techniques? Any good websites to research?

Anything would be helpful in relation to either disease or any other neurological disorders relating to inability to co-ordinate hindquarters?

midnight (Guest)
08-07-02, 02:03 PM
There's heaps of stuff available on wobblers ... have a look at the Breeding forum on cbh - wobblers is a form of OCD and it is operable.

EPM .. try a search on Google ... thats always good for this kind of thing.

anon (Guest)
08-07-02, 02:17 PM
..try this page for a start- it can link you back to other info too:

www.aht.org.uk/fsheets/fsheet10.html

try www.ivis.org too- that has piles of info on lots of stuff.

please give symptoms too- would be very interested to hear.

peter sellers (Guest)
08-07-02, 03:30 PM
EPM has not been detected in Australia to my knowledge.

Wobbler Disease/Syndrome is commonplace however, mostly large young TBs.

Debbie (Guest)
09-07-02, 01:35 AM
There was a thread on here a few months back - try searching the archives. It had a lot of info and some links re wobblers.

Cheers

Caroline (Guest)
09-07-02, 01:42 AM
peter sellers is correct, EPM hasn't been diagnosed over here yet.
Wobbler Syndrome can be caused by a couple of things -
firstly, quick growth rates in young, large TBs (and yes, predominantly geldings), or damage/injury to the head or neck.
What it basically is, is a lesion on the spinal cord, which affects the nerves from functioning properly.
Wobblers are graded 1-10.
If you suspect that you have a wobbler, then the best thing is to take it to somewhere like Randwick Vet Hospital, or a good large vet hospital with the correct XRay equipment.
They will take an xray of the head and neck area to see if there is a lesion on the spinal cord.
This will give a 90% diagnosis. The only way to achieve a 100% diagnosis is a myellogram where dye is inserted into the spinal cord, and obviously, if the lesion is causing a blockage then that will show up.
My horse was graded a 1 (lowest) 4 years ago only due to having an xray, I now wonder if there was a speck of dust on the equipment...
There is no change to him, he still jumps 4ft with ease, and does flying changes etc, and never falls over. at the time I had him checked I was worried as he had slipped and fallen over in his yard on a greasy surface - it now turns out he had fractured his hip at this stage and this was the cause of his problems that I was trying to discover..!

Wobblers can be operated on, but only if they are young - what they do is a bagby basket procedure where they fuse two vertebrae together. It's not something that is carried out on older horses.

If you need any more info, email me on cwademartens@yahoo.com.au

worried mum (Guest)
09-07-02, 01:23 PM
The horse is under veterinary care at the moment. I'm asking these questions because I feel so helpless, so at least the more research I do the more I can quiz the vet and evaluate my options.
The symptoms are as follows:
*Ataxic in the hindquarters, horse improves when on drugs
*Pigeon toed in front feet (horse is normally very straight), this improves when the horse is on drugs
*Tilted head
*Poor co-ordination
*Inability reach full stride length
*Muscle wastage
*Coarse coat

At the moment I am trying to decide where to go from here and what tests should be done. It all seems very hopeless at the moment and all I can do is learn as much as I can about neurological disorders

Caroline (Guest)
10-07-02, 12:16 AM
Has the horse injured itself? Fallen over? What does your vet say? Can you call somewhere like Randwick Vet Centre and speak to the Professor there - he has a great deal of experience with neurological disorders. Has the horse been xrayed in its head or neck area?
Have you considered contacting an equine acupuncturist? http://www.ava.com.au/content/avaa/avaa.htm
It does sound like nerve damage, but probably a myellogram will give more conclusive diagnosis.

worried mum (Guest)
12-07-02, 10:51 AM
The horse does not appear to have been injured or fallen. Its been 3 weeks since the symptoms first appeared. The horse is at a specialist equine vet. I am currently trying to deciding whether to do a mylogram. If the test finds anything, there is very little that can be done. I am currently waiting for the drugs to wear off, see how the horse is and go from there.