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floater
24-02-07, 05:04 AM
I'm looking at buying a new dressage saddle & was wondering if anyone has a stubben? Which model do you have & do you like it? I really like the Scandica but am keen to try the new Genesis as well.
Any feed back (good or bad) would be appreciated!

violetsmum
24-02-07, 05:21 AM
Personally, I LOVE my Stubbens. Being an instructor and having worked in saddleries when I was young, I was privvy to trying out different saddles and seeing which ones came back into the shop to be repaired and which saddles lasted the best out in the real world and which saddles suit different people's physique/riding style.

For me, the style of Stubbens seem to keep me coming back. They tend to suit people who can ride bareback. Prolly something to do with the seat and the open nature of some of the models. My current dressage saddle is a Stubben Tristan I had made for me and brought into Australia. But the Genesis and the Scandica models you mention have bigger knee rolls than mine.

The downside of the older Stubbens is the seat can be hard and can take a little while to break in... but I believe this is not an issue with the 2 models you have mentioned. The wearability of Stubbens is legendary. FYI - the Lohengrin (sp?) model has won many a Garryowen.

The tree/shape of the saddle also suits horses better in general (IMHO) than the rear-projection flat panels that you see so often these days. I mean how many horses have flat ironingboard backs?

Perhaps the best way to answer your question is to throw questions back at you.... How tall are you, how long in the thigh are you and how do you sit in the saddle?

Cheers,
VM

Celtic
24-02-07, 05:50 AM
I have a Stubben Siegfried CS and love it! Had alot of trouble getting a saddle to clear my horse's high wither and the stubbens seem to fit nicely in this area without adjustment. Mine has the leg block things too and keeps me in place nicely. Can't go past the 1/2 deep seat when jumping either flat seats aren't for beginners especially if your horse jumps like a springbok stops you from falling off the back....

Leather is awesome quality and still looks new after a year just gave it a little oil one day, cream the next at the beginning and now saddle soap it after each ride and that's it.

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Celtic
24-02-07, 05:51 AM
Here's a modelling shot on my pony. Love the 2 tone colour on a chestie too looks great.

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floater
24-02-07, 05:57 AM
Thanks so much for the info VM!

I'm not very tall (about 165cm) but I have long legs & a short top. My Ariat leather chaps, for example are a long in height but extra small in width. I'm not big in the hip area & tend to prefer narrower saddles rather than the popular wide styles. Hmmm as for how I sit in the saddle, I'm reasonably balanced but prone to leaning a little forward if anything.

I've sat in a lot of saddles whilst looking for a new saddle & my favourite has been the stubben - love the shape & leather quality although I have't ridden in one yet. My next choice would be the Peter Horrobin Liberty or the Pessoa Anky but I'm hoping the stubben will be nice to ride in!

Cybergirl
24-02-07, 06:15 AM
Well you certainly can't go past the quality of a Stubben. I defy anyone to wear one out! My 22 year old Stubben Kerry jumping saddle still looks near new. Yes, it does have a hard seat, but it's a jumping saddle, and I believe the newer ones have a softer seat?

HEALME
24-02-07, 06:26 AM
Nice picture, But your saddle is sitting too far forward on top of your horses shoulders and it looks like it has no contact on his back at the cantle, so is prob is putting more pressure right back on his shoulders again. Saddles may look pretty but are they really fitting your horses???

floater
24-02-07, 06:32 AM
Nice pic Celtic!

Thanks for your comment Cybergirl. The new Stubben dressage saddle certainly looks to be good quality & I thought the seat felt lovely & soft (although until you ride in it I guess you never really know).

sil
24-02-07, 06:40 AM
I, too, am 165cm with long legs and a short torso. I have one of the old Stubbens in a 16.5" which is now a little small for my growing bottom.. hehe.

The seat is hard but it's comfortable to ride in and you forget it's there. It sits very well on the horse. Mine is a wide gullet.

Tonto
24-02-07, 07:11 AM
Stubben comfortable? Can't agree with yous there... I find them extremely uncomfortable... very hard. I've head the new ones have some additional foam in the seat tho.

Celtic
24-02-07, 07:36 AM
New ones are comfortable but I have extra padding behind.

Healme a saddle fitter fitted my saddle - I watched and understood most of what he said I think. Horse is happy in it. I do use a riser training with it though :P

My horse also has a wither the size of Mt Vesuvius and I can guarantee you it will be in the correct position when I jump on board :)

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drb
24-02-07, 01:03 PM
I have an ANCIENT Stubben Tristan that I adore.

It was a second hand saddle when I bought it, and that was 20years ago.

It is also a saddle that seems to accomodate different horses backs fairly well (in my experience of 4 horses that have worn it).

I find it nice and comfy too.

It probably isnt worth much these days, but someone could offer me $2000 and I wouldnt sell it.

:) belinda