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Horsey_Sense
17-06-07, 03:57 PM
Hi! I have a 5 year old, 14.2hh, Palomino, Anglo-Arabian. At the moment he is very, very light! Almost completly white I'd say! Last winter he gradually dappled and grew darker which brought out his features and made him look alot more like the pretty palomino he is! I was just wondering if anyone knew any special ways to quicken the progress of him turning into that beautiful dark palomino? Any special feeds and sparys that could help? Any help is much appreciated! Thanks guys!

Horsey_Sense
17-06-07, 11:35 PM
Anything, LOL?

pauper
17-06-07, 11:55 PM
Hi Horsey sense i'm not sure if you can change his colour permantely as genetics would play a big part! but a diet high in carotene will help though, you do need to be careful if you are showing as you dont want him to get all smutty!
What foods have you tried so far?

makeI believe in getting into hot water. I think it keeps you clean.

gg_vice
18-06-07, 01:08 AM
O/T Can you tell me his breeding? Just curious about a pali anglo?
Give pumpkin a go.

Blazzing Ripper
18-06-07, 02:34 AM
Im with gg, give pumpkin a go.

Palomino_Nut
18-06-07, 05:50 AM
Hi, are you talking about his winter coat ?? most palomino's go nearly white with there winter coats and have a darker summer coat.Bit more info might help :)






http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/Palomino_nut/24.jpg

Integrity
18-06-07, 07:11 AM
Just a note: he can't be a true Anglo-Arabian as they cant' be dilute colours :) Only PURE arabian and PURE ASB thoroughbreds (irrespective of the %s)

Try pumpkin, livermol, sunflower seeds etc...

kevarose
18-06-07, 12:39 PM
I am confused here. I have a pally - ony had her a month - and I am trying to work out what to feed her - but as far as I find out to avoid smutting I have to avoid all oil and food with oil in it, and avoid like the plague livamol and sunflower seeds ... it is SO confusing!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/kevarose/P1010638.jpg

Palomino_Nut
18-06-07, 01:15 PM
hi Kevarose , yes it is confusing some palomino's smutt on oil and sunflower seeds and all those other bad things :) BUT and this is a BIG BUT some palominos don't so only way to find out is feed and see if your pally smutt's if you notice it is you then have to figure out what is doing it and stop feeding it , to make life even harder some smutt on clover and lucence too :)

p.s love your pally :)


http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/Palomino_nut/24.jpg

kevarose
18-06-07, 06:55 PM
Thanks Palamino nut. Yours is very beautiful! And clearly loved by the "palamino" dog. Mine had some grey hair "spots" on her bum hair when I bought her - about hte size of a 20 cent coin - that I was told was smutting so she has the gene. She is a quarter horse/ arab/ stockhorse.

She is on pasture that is all eaten and so only an odd nibble for fun so have to feed her all she needs. I feed her oaten/lucern/wheaten chaff with an egg in it every morning and maybe some seaweed "vitamin" mix and then over the day currently 2 or a bit more biscuits of rye/clover hay (which drives me crazy as I get all these little rye spears in my clothing) and occasionally some lucerne hay instead. It is a "dozey" diet deliberately as she is ready to start training and is pretty green - even though she is 12 - and I am not that experienced. We plan to keep her not on anything heating until I am more capable. Planning to grow pumpkin and cook it and freeze so I can take a little tub up each morning to add to the chaff mix.

I'd love to know what other pally owners feed. A person in the feed shop told me she added sulphur to the food to bring out the color. Another pally owner said he gave them magnesium (epsom salts) whenever he had to feed lucerne hay as that was all that was around. I am nervous to add chemicals until I know more about it.

Palomino_Nut
19-06-07, 05:13 AM
I feed my palominos prydes easy with lucerne chaff and oaten with copra in the the off show seasons then about 3 months before the show's start they get put on a diet of oaten chaff boiled barley and boiled rice , and they get grass hay , my palominos are bad smutter's .
They are arab x quarter horses.
Here's a bit better pic of my boy as you can see no smutt:) i tried getting one of him with the smutt but photobucket dosn't want to work with me today :( i'll try again later
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/Palomino_nut/14-5.jpg


http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/Palomino_nut/24.jpg

kevarose
19-06-07, 05:45 AM
Thanks for that. Pryde's Easy has oil in it I think and so I ruled it out. But maybe I wil ltry mine on that as showing is not an issue at the moment. YOur boy looks so gleaming with health!

Horsey_Sense
20-06-07, 10:56 PM

SarahNJudy
21-06-07, 01:42 AM
Hi There,

I havnt had much to do with Palominios for a LONG time but I found this on the net

http://www.dilutes.iinet.net.au/Feeding_tips.htm

A lady who I used to strapp for when I was a lot younger had an anglo arab Pally and I remember her feeding him ALOT of pumpkin coz she had a hard time with his colour too (was very pale).

Good Luck
Sarah

Horsey_Sense
21-06-07, 03:57 AM
BTW! Thanks for all the help guys!

gg_vice
21-06-07, 04:03 AM
Is he registered with the AHSA as an anglo, would be really interested to know.

AJ_3
21-06-07, 06:09 AM
Once your pally has his winter coat you can not change that winter coat. You have to wait for his summer coat. So basically what you feed him now will help the colour of your summer coat.

My pally is almost white too and I have been told that, that isnt a bad thing.

Too help him drop his coat you could rug him up till he is stinking hot or put him under lights. I'm not keen on either of these ideas. I am just going to wait for my pally to change his coat naturally, he is rugged though.

Feed him things that will darken his coats like:
pumpkin
lucerne
molasses
there are a few other things, but beware of smutting.

Good luck!!!

AJ_3
21-06-07, 06:12 AM
I was just reading someone was feeding that Pally Prydes Easy Feed.

I too feed my pally Prydes, I feed prydes 'two' and have also feed the prydes feed which is for I think resting horses because it is a similar mix.

Great feed!!!!

Horsey_Sense
21-06-07, 07:13 AM
Thanks guys!

gg_vice
21-06-07, 07:57 AM
Uhm, careful on some of the advice. Some of those things are great ways to get smutting.

Horsey_Sense
21-06-07, 08:05 AM
WOW! This is really helpful info! Thanks guys! Oh and BTW, Yep, he is a registered Palomino Anglo-Arab. I haven't looked at his papers for ages, so i'll have to dig them out, but he def is registered, just not sure whether it's with the Australian Palolmino Association or With the Ango as a palomino if that make any sense, LOL!

gg_vice
21-06-07, 08:47 AM
I'm sorry but I doubt he is registered anglo with the AHSA ( I stand to be corrected). Can you tell me which side of his parentage carries the dilute gene?
There are dilute TB's that are AJC (not recognised by the AHSA who only accept Studbook). No dilute gene in the pure arabs.

RH Bobbie
21-06-07, 09:04 AM
Interesting thread.

BUT!

"Too help him drop his coat you could rug him up till he is stinking hot"

:o


Rugging "up" will not make a horse drop its coat!!!! It will make a horse 'burn' its coat also damage the new growth coming through.

Palomino_Nut
21-06-07, 09:27 AM
LOL RH Bobbie i was just thinking same thing haha
A horses coat will not drop if you rug it till it melts it is the amount of daylight that makes a horse drop its coat so when you do use the lights you are only making the horse think the day is getting longer and you do not rug it till it eyes pop, You rug it for comfort and no more, palominos coats will bleach from over rugging and sweating to much.I'm very old fashion and use good old arm power ( HOURS OF GROOMING).


http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/Palomino_nut/24.jpg

kevarose
21-06-07, 09:33 AM
I am newbie. My pally loves being brushed so I often brush her but only for a minute or so. Do you brush for longer? I have all these brushes - soft ones, hard ones, curry combs, given to me by people and I am willing to learn!

Horsey_Sense
21-06-07, 09:53 AM
Yeah, i'm really not sure about the registration. I'll have a look for the papers tomorrow and see what there is, LOL. At the moment Moe wears a cotton, a doona, and then a waterproof other shell. Normally during the day though, if it is not pouring, we take his doona off and juts leave him with the others. He is still a little 'wolly bear' though, LOL. I agree! You def should not rug a horse until it sweats as that is VERy bad for their doat and their comfort.

RH Bobbie
21-06-07, 09:59 AM
Ahhh you cant go past good old fasioned elbow greese!
So much more rewarding :)

Horsey_Sense
21-06-07, 10:00 AM
I much agree! I find it very relaxing for both me and my ponies! Got fitness if yoou do it properly too, LOL!

Palomino_Nut
21-06-07, 10:57 AM
Well i have rather large shoulders :) The min mine start drop there winter coats they get brushed for 1 hr in morning and 1 hr in afternoon depends on how much hair is coming out sometimes its longer or shorter , but this is only because our shows around here start in September, My boy is the opposite to yours he is to dark when his summer coat comes threw so he gets sun time to lighten up,He only wears a light ripstop combo and a heavier night rug on top .Once his coat starts to drop i just add a cotton rug under that at night to help shine coat.if you see dapples you still have winter coat and need to brush more :)
This is pic of him at the begining of his summer coat .
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/Palomino_nut/31e6.jpg
and this is him after it has lightened up a bit .
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/Palomino_nut/24.jpg

Palomino_Nut
21-06-07, 11:00 AM
ok other pic didn't show up ill try again :)

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/Palomino_nut/63bc.jpg



http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/Palomino_nut/24.jpg

Horsey_Sense
24-06-07, 08:06 AM
Great! Thanks guys!