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saturn
14-09-11, 03:17 PM
Im asking this question because im REALLY struggling to find agistment/paddock to keep a horse where i currently live and what other options would be!

Do you keep your horse/s at home or at an agistment property?

The people that keep their horses at home would you consider "renting" out a paddock for someone else to keep their horse on your property?

People that agist, how far do you travel to see your horse and how often do you see him/her?

thanks, just trying to get an idea of what people do!

EquineTherapy
14-09-11, 03:21 PM
Hi Saturn,

I agist my horse in Appin in sth west Sydney. I travel about 40 minutes to the place, and ride 2-3 times per week.

I have agisted in Darkes Forest, Terry Hills and Arcadia.

Where do you live? I may be able to help you....

saturn
14-09-11, 03:29 PM
Im on the North Coast in Casino, there seems to be no-where here or near that im aware of that has agistment of any description.

Been looking now for 3 months, have asked numerous people and still coming up "empty"!

Getting a bit depressing must say!

Ness3
14-09-11, 03:45 PM
I currently agist it's only 5 mins drive away. I'm in queensland. I see my horse daily sometimes twice daily and during a normal week ride anywhere from 1-3 times a week.

Having previously had horses at my own place I would say there are difinate disadvantages to agisting. however when there is no other option and you want to have a horse in your life you just have to make the compromise.

If you are prepared to travel have you looked into nearby towns. I used to go to Uni in Lismore, I know that Lismore has the racetrack they may know of something or local pony clubs. Next is Ballina??? Kyogle???

All the best and let us know how you go :)

Miniature Lover
14-09-11, 03:58 PM
I have horses at home but would not agist out a paddock purely because I am at capacity and am going to send my brood mare off to agistment so I can concentrait on the show horses. When she is due to foal I will have the stable built for her and she can foal down here. But that is not till this time next year anyway.

My big horse I ride sometimes (maybe once a month if that) I am usnure on what to do with him. I luffs him so much I wanna lease him to someone but then change my mind. Maybe I will just find somewhere to retire him and then I will have plenty of room for more mini horses.

Hopefully I can move to more land sometime next year. :) I would love just an extra two acres. That would allow me to have a few more mini horses to show.

Luca
14-09-11, 04:11 PM
I agist my boy and it takes me an hour to get there. I try to go out every day but sometimes I have other things to do and I won't get time.

I'm on full board so I don't have to worry about feeding or rugging/unrugging

windsweptfarm
14-09-11, 04:13 PM
Agistment. I wish it were otherwise, but that probably won't happen till after I move out of home and can afford my own place. She is 15 minutes away, but because I rely on my parents for transport I only see her about 4 times a week. But she is perfectly fine on that arrangement. However, once I can drive myself I will be going up at least once a day.

Cannondale
14-09-11, 04:14 PM
Its tough isn't it finding quality affordable agistment?

However part of the reason it's so tough is those of us who have taken agisters or rented paddocks have found it just too bigger pain to continue to offer it.

The non payment, the implausible excuses and the general crap that they bring with them is not worth it. If you put yourself forward as an emotionally mature, considered and financially stable individual you will have a stronger chance of finding something.

Koalas_rule
14-09-11, 04:19 PM
"Agistment". Such an ugly word. Reminds me of cattle and sheep. I rent a paddock which is a 5 minute walk from my house. I see my horse twice a day but sadly can only ride in the summer due to the fact that I work such long hours.

Bfisch
14-09-11, 04:37 PM
I used to agist approx 15mins from home (on the way to work and back, fed twice daily..not ridden that much though). He was the only horse on the whole street and the paddock was terrible when it rained so it just wasn't fair on him.
When I sold him I said I wouldn't buy another horse til I had my own land... but of course I just bought a new horse and we won't be moving to property for atleast 8 months :D oops. So new horse is agisted about 45mins away and I only get out there on weekends but as the days get longer I will get there to ride after work. He is with his breeder and is very well cared for so I would prefer this, even though I only ride a few days a week, than for him to be in a crappy paddock nearby!

OakyPoke
14-09-11, 05:12 PM
I keep them at home. I dont really have space to rent out a paddock. There's been the odd occasion we have had too much grass, but I have a few friends who are breeders so I just take on one of theirs for a while - give their paddocks a rest. Havent done that for a few years tho. No room in the Inn.
Would I consider renting to a stranger? No. I know friends who did it as a business (ie ran full agistment and trail riding properties) and they had no end of trouble with getting paid, old horses being dumped. More stress I dont need in my life :)

cocomist
14-09-11, 05:13 PM
Have 100 acres for my lot to roam... along with a few head of cattle. So I'm not agisting. But I do have my friends 13.2hh pony here at the moment. Has been running with my lot for nearly 9 months now.

My friend only has 6 acres and every summer she'll usually bring 2 or 3 of her horses over to give her paddock a break.

So yes I would probably consider renting a paddock.

ktgirl88
14-09-11, 05:15 PM
I agist my horse (yes singular now!) near windsor and live up past hornsby, so it's about an hour drive each day. I don't have to feed or rug him myself, but I do ride most days (either schooling or a hack out).

Norbit
14-09-11, 05:23 PM
I have my horses at home, but have agisted for years before I was lucky to have property!! I used to travel about 45 minutes to my horses and only saw them a few times a week as I relied on my parents for transport then before I got my license years ago!!

I would have trouble ever going back to agistment, I LOVE having my horses at home, but the cons I can think of it are that I would probably ride more once I made the effort to go out to see them as while they are at home, it can be a bit more of a chore - and I definitely miss the social aspect of it.

I would consider taking on an agister - I only have the one paddock (which is bare anyway) right now - but the situation would have to suit me and just be something that comes up...I'm not actively looking for an agister. I ideally would love someone to ride with after work and them help out with feeding up, whatever maintainence in return for agistment (but a friend had the same arrangement with another friend - of course none of it ever happened and it caused stress on the friendship!!).

Melrose
14-09-11, 05:26 PM
I am looking at agistment places for my potential future horse as I live in the suburbs of Sydney....I am prepared to travel up to an hour for a quality place, will probably only manage that 3 x week though.

Ktgirl88 - just out of interest, what's the quickest way you find to get to Windsor? I am near Hornsby as well and currently ride out at Oakville it seems to take forever to get there....

cyrus
14-09-11, 05:36 PM
I grew up on a farm, and never thought I could ever live on someone else's land.
But funnily enough, I have now agisted all my working life. 30 years agisting, since I left home. I have usually agisted on rural properties, with no particular facilities, just paddocks. I have been lucky to always keep my horses no further from my home than a 15km drive, and when i worked they were in the town.
Now that I could actually buy a property, I have chosen not to, its hard work looking after land.
So I do not work, and spend the day with my horses, we have 4 horses on someones back paddock, with the use of old stables, and we can do our own thing.
I had spent about 2 years at an agistment centre, but really , life is much more pleasant in my own ( and people I choose to share with's company)
I pay a set fee for the stables and 15 acre paddock, but I own my home in town.
I enjoy the way it is.

ktgirl88
14-09-11, 05:43 PM
Ktgirl88 - just out of interest, what's the quickest way you find to get to Windsor? I am near Hornsby as well and currently ride out at Oakville it seems to take forever to get there....

I have found the quickest way is the gorge, then go right at the 2nd roundabout in Galston (past the shops - where I totaled my Peugeot), then right onto Old Northern rd, then left onto Cattai Ridge rd and keep following it all the way to Scheyville. I also stop at the bakery in Glenorie regularly coz it's pretty much on the way :)

Melrose
14-09-11, 05:47 PM
Thanks I might try that way. There seem to be some nice places to keep horses out that way I'm just worried about the travel.....cheaper than Arcadia though !

Djangoandjacana
14-09-11, 06:13 PM
I have my horses at home and no I don't agist other peoples. The only exception has been when I have sold one and I have agisted it until they can take the horse.

The reason I don't do it are several

1) Its my home and I don't want to have people turning up at all sorts of odd hours
2) I need all the room I have at the moment
3) My OH wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing we had the responsibility of someone else horse on the property in case it got injured.

However I sympathize with you as I know how hard it can be in a rural area. When we first moved here we had two horses and I had an enormous trouble finding somewhere. Surrounded by paddocks full of cattle but no one wanting to slip a horse in with them (they eat too much, degrade the paddocks, wreck the fences etc etc). Very much a who you know type arrangement. Luckily after 6 months we were able to rent a house that also allowed us to keep the horses there for three years till we bought this place.

Have you go on contact with the local horse clubs? Not necessarily your discipline of choice, just anyone that meets or has competitions as they might be your best bet for finding a place. Add at the feed store, in local papers?

kait21
14-09-11, 06:23 PM
Ahh it's so difficult looking for agistment especially in a rural area where there is little need for it. I would contact local dressage clubs and pony clubs and ask to put an ad in the newsletter etc. I agist my riding horses as I live in suburbia (less than 10 klm to city). I've accepted that. While I would love to have 10-20 acres set up for horses with an arena, stables and fencing etc, at 21 it's a little out of my reach :p I also have no time to run that kind of land and look after it like Cyrus mentioned, so agistment suits me. I know that on the 2 days I can't ride, my horse is still cared for by a knowledgeable person and he is fed and rugged regardless of if I'm sick, busy or on holidays. It is very convenient. I live about 10 minutes away and head out there to ride 5 days a week. Good luck :)

Charlypops
14-09-11, 06:47 PM
I have my own 32 acres. I would be happy to rent out a paddock to the right person.

MareyJane
14-09-11, 07:35 PM
I keep my two mares (barefoot, unrugged and grubby) out 24/7 in a 10 acre paddock on my back doorstep. :) About half of it is pasture and the other half forest. OH built a paddock shelter where we provide free choice hay in the winter but horses prefer to shelter from the elements amongst the trees. I feed my old girl 3 times a day and groom/handle them both every day and ride about twice a week. I love, love, love keeping my horses at home. Like a previous poster (Django....) there is no way my OH would cope with us having the responsiblity for someone elses horse, so although I have the room and plenty of feed on the ground I couldn't take on another horse. I wish you luck in finding somewhere - maybe ask at the saddlery, stock feeders and vets?

Sandbeck
14-09-11, 07:57 PM
I have my 7 at home with me, we have 140 acres and have great paddock rotation setup in place. We have more than enough land to share even when we lock up paddocks for hay cutting. I used to adjist to 3 racehorse trainer when they needed to spell their horses. They would turn up all hyped up, dancing around on tipee toes, wild eyed and breathing fire, most would stay for about 9 - 15 months to get back to nature and remember how to be horses again. It was lovely, at one stage I had 17 of them here. The trainers would always phone to check up on them and would organise farriers, worming, rugs etc. Most were naked (horses not trainers). I then took in some private people, what a nightmare, they would turn up at all hours, despite having set guidelines.

Anything from stolen gear, to stolen horses turning up :eek: (horse was bought in good faith, but the seller had in fact stolen it from someone else) to not bothering to get farriers in (even when I offered to have my farrier do them) all sorts of things.

In the end I just stopped doing it for all of them. The racehorses because the worry of injury and the worth of some of them.

I will however take in horses for people who have fallen on hard times and need a hand, rent free. This has happened a few times. Due to marriage breakups and job losses.

Nice to have the company and help people out but I would never, ever take on private clients again.

moosh
14-09-11, 08:34 PM
I agist on a property in Albion Park, a 25min drive away that is split up into smallish paddocks.

I used to agist a 50min drive away on a friends property for free but it got too much & our friendship would have suffered if I didn't move as she liked to dictate what I could & couldn't do with my horse.

We all have our own paddock & it is full DIY for $35 a week. It is owned by an old couple. He will slash if required & fix a boundry fence but the rest is up to us.

I would like him closer but the agistment that I could get in the northern suburbs was very pricey full care which I didn't want or need. Council paddocks in the northern suburbs of Wollongong are tightly held & you practically need to sleep with someone who is in charge of the council adgistment to get one :eek:

I go out once a day to feed/play/change rugs. I ride when I get the time though with summer coming I am aiming for at least 3 times a week.

How far away is Casino to Urbenville? My Aunty & Uncle have a cattle property on the Tooloom road & my cousin keeps his campdrafting horses there on his property that adjoins. Can ask if it isn't too far!

Harriette
14-09-11, 08:41 PM
my two boys are home with me.
I have spent time and effort and $ getting my poor paddocks into some sort of shape,
and it is not as easy to rotate small paddocks when there are two 'supervisors'
every bit of feed on the ground is a saving on hay (more time effort $, and carting 35km each way x 4 trips)

so no I would not consider a permanent agister. I have been happy to yard horses for people for a limited time, but with a stallion, that is more difficult.

besides the issues of collecting the $

Miruz
14-09-11, 08:52 PM
I agist at a small place in a lovely location 15 minutes drive from me. It has good facilities and I really enjoy the social aspect of spending most afternoons chatting with the other agistees. We all get along like a little family and help look after each others horses if we need it. I would adore keeping my horse right at my back door, and he'd love it too, but at the moment it's not possible so I'm thankful for what I have :)

Garryngirl
14-09-11, 08:55 PM
I have my horse on my own property. I have just over 4 acres and horse is on about 3 of those but it is split into 2 stable/yards, small 20 x 40m paddock, 40 x 100m paddock then a larger 80 x ?? paddock at the back.

I probably could take another horse but choose not to. I don't mind if it was a dire emergency to help someone out but wouldn't take on anything permanently.

I like my own space and not having to worry about someone else's horse/needs.
Might be selfish but well I just prefer it that way.

Caille
14-09-11, 09:26 PM
Mine lives at home with me. We're at the back of a cattle property against Crown land. It's lovely and peaceful. People coming in and out would ruin that... and my driveway would trash any but the toughest 4WD!

raffles101
14-09-11, 09:42 PM
I agist on a property with an indoor arena, round yard, trails, stables, and a feed shed. I could never afford to have those sort of facilities at home any time in this century. Its less than 10 minutes from my house. 20 minutes from my work and very social and something is always going on!

Mystery~Bay
14-09-11, 10:06 PM
I have used full agistment before, rented on acreage and grew up on 50 acres but right now I lease a 25 acre paddock from the company I do some work for who purchased it for investment purposes but dont need to do anything with it for some time. It's about 4km away, so a 5 minutes drive and costs me $10/week per horse. It had some rough stables/sheds on it but I hire a container for security. It's totally flat so I have made a rough grass arena, have some showjumps set up and a few crosscountry jumps. OH made me a few post and rails yards from timber on the property. It has a dam and a tank but no town water, I have never run out but I can't really wash horses. It has lots of trees and fire trails nearby. No electricity though

I had another horse there for a while for a friend, but feeding time got too difficult. It's bulging with grass 9 months of the year, just the winter grass is pretty empty of goodness and I have TB's and I often hand feed just to get them to come up to do rugs

It's been quite convenient and inexpensive but would be so much better to have them at home. We just accepted an offer on our house and we plan to now purchase our own acreage which has been my dream ever since I moved off my parents preperty :D

LindaH
14-09-11, 10:13 PM
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We offer agistment, but prefer short term stays. We've had a few spelling racehorses, performance horses that the owners wanted to keep rugged and fed over the Christmas break, kids ponies that need supervised grazing while their owners are away on holidays, overnight stays from travellers on the Newell Highway who want their horse to spend the night in a paddock rather than a showground stall etc.

I'm not sure we would like a full timer who wanted to come over daily and ride etc. We live here and like our privacy :D.

StElmosFire
14-09-11, 11:50 PM
We have our three Ginger Ninjas at home with us. (We had six when we first came here, but three have now gone to heaven) We were asked a few months ago if we'd take a horse on agistment, but it was somebody we didn't know (we knew the person asking on their behalf), but after careful consideration, we said "no".

Because we don't have yards, we don't have big, tall fences, we don't have barbed wire, and we don't have enough electric fence capacity. Our mares are very territorial (as was proved when we minded a mare and a gelding for a friend for a week once) and Elmo is rather impressionable, and if a visitor was hooning like an idiot, Elmo would copy.

Then there was the insurance worry - the person wanted to teach her daughter to ride on this agisted horse, so what if an accident happened on our property? And add to it the privacy thing that several others have mentioned.... if you don't know people from a gumboot, who's to say they won't pinch your gear, your feed, your float.....??? And even if they're honest enough, who's to say they won't rock up with a friend or two in tow, and then you've got more strangers casing your place..... No thanks! Trouble finds you easily enough in this life..... you don't have to go out actively courting it!

I do sympathise though.... good agistment is hard to find, often expensive, and often involves a lot of travelling. I guess if you intentionally invested money in setting up your place as an agistment centre, and had the infrastructure and drew up legal agreements with each client, it could work well; but we don't have the finances to set it all up anyway.

saturn
14-09-11, 11:50 PM
Thanks everyone for your replies, so interesting to hear where you keep your horses and all your experiences re: agistment and with agisters etc.

Thanks so much for all the advise re: contacting pony clubs etc etc, i have tried all of those avenue's spoken to numerous contacts from one helpful lady but all are private people who dont want agisters! :(

Today i had a glimmer of hope, i found a "potential" agistment centre in Byron Bay, looks goregous and the price is good but i see the property is for sale, which would pose a potential problem down the line maybe, but i guess that as they say we will deal with at a later stage if need be, it will be a bit of a drive from Casino which is ok, but prevents me doing DIY, so im still waiting to hear if they feed and rug as i wont be able to make it everyday, so until i hear from them about that, its a piece of hope im clinging to!!

Thanks everyone appreciate your advice, info and kindness! :)

Garryngirl
15-09-11, 07:30 AM
We just accepted an offer on our house and we plan to now purchase our own acreage which has been my dream ever since I moved off my parents preperty :D

Wooohhhhooooo MB, happy property hunting. I LOVE looking at houses and watch those real estate shows because I love having a sticky beak at homes.

Fingers crossed it all goes smoothly for you guys and I can't wait to hear you have found a great property and your furkids are soon going to be in your backyard.

GoneRama
15-09-11, 09:04 AM
I 'agist' my horse on the nearby cattle station which is about 7ks from my front door. It's a bit of a 'you scratch my back and I scratch yours' kind of arrangement and horsey is out on a few thousand acres with 30 other horses so it's not like they really notice the other horse there anyway.

Over the wet season he'll be going onto agistment in town....... 8 acres with a few other horses and two feeds a day. Going to cost me a bit but at least he'll have a pedicure every 6 weeks and will be able to get the vet to him should he need it.

I grew up with horses in my back yard, mum and dad have 11 acres and a few of our mates have kept their horses with us at various times but as a general rule it's 'no' as dad doesn't like fixing yards that 'free loaders' bust :mad:

wuffer
15-09-11, 10:01 AM
We agist about 15mins from where we live and 5 mins from where I work. I drive past at least 3 times a day sometimes more, have nearly run off the road looking at/for them :)

Where we are is probably one of the most expensive around but still its location is great anything cheaper is 30mins + away. So what we save we lose on fuel and travel.

The owner of our agistment place lives on the same property but is it fenced off and hidden from site, we are also discouraged from going over :)

We did agist in oakville before moving to canberra but it was on someone's small property and she liked to tell us how to ride and train our horse... :( I found I had to go when I knew she wasnt there.

Hope you find something you like :)

dimquisty
15-09-11, 10:01 AM
I agisted for many years, luckily all worked out to be very good places. One in particular ended up being very good friends to this day.

I have my own property now which I absolutely appreciate. Mainly due to the convenience of having my horse just at my back door. No driving :)

Mystery Bay: Congratulations to you. Have a fabulous time choosing your perfect acreage. (horsey property):)

Melrose
15-09-11, 10:23 AM
Wuffer I reckoning know that place in Oakville.....!!
Mystery Bay.... So exciting, living on acreage is my absolute dream it's just the other half that needs convincing even tho he grew up on 50 hectares! Best of luck whereabouts are you looking?

Mystery~Bay
15-09-11, 04:35 PM
Thanks GnG and Dimquisty :) Fingers crossed it all goes through. We're looking at a place this afternoon for the third time, pretty surre its the one we want. It's not perfect, but we don't have engh money for "perfect" LOL. It's pretty close though!

Bisho
15-09-11, 06:21 PM
Good Luck MysteryBay....

I bet you will have it 'perfect' in no time at all...

Sometimes the journey there is as exciting as the destination :)