Page 7 of 7 FirstFirst ... 567
Results 61 to 65 of 65

Thread: Training at the walk

  1. #61
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    5,889

    Default

    Perhaps if you look at it another way ... From whatever pace he is doing, is he ready to clear a 1.50 metre oxer? Probably not from a walk, no matter how collected (although there will always be the horse that can) but from a full of forwardness - not hurrying - and on the bit collected and developing into extended trot or canter .... ? From passage that's not the forward and out behind piaffe we see nowadays but a true and beautiful sweeping natural passage? And from a true, sitting, piaffe? He can do capriole from piaffe ....

    I will add a little bit. A horse carrying a 12 stone rider over a 6 foot fence develops 160 bhp. Sorry - you will have to do the conversions. Maybe convert "impulsion" to "horsepower"? Relating impulsion to "time in the air" isn't really so silly in that context.
    Last edited by midnightly; 02-05-19 at 08:19 AM. Reason: Added a bit.

  2. #62
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Brisbane Queenzealand
    Posts
    1,863

    Default

    Does a piaffe have impulsion?

    Does a 10.7 sec/furlong gallop have impulsion?

    Could you clear a 1.70 Oxer from either of these?

  3. #63
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    5,889

    Default

    ... then momentum must come into it as well? More momentum in piaffe (so it’s no longer piaffe) and less momentum in the gallop (so it’s no longer close to even time) .... then the oxer can be cleared.

    Engagement is the basis for collection and impulsion ... but it can also mean collection and impulsion.

  4. #64
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Queensland, Australia.
    Posts
    5,544

    Default

    Awesome to see all the responses to this thread ….
    The only thing wrong with a horse is that it is usually attached to a human

  5. #65
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    sydney, nsw, australia.
    Posts
    12,894

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by midnightly View Post
    Perhaps if you look at it another way ... From whatever pace he is doing, is he ready to clear a 1.50 metre oxer? Probably not from a walk, no matter how collected (although there will always be the horse that can) but from a full of forwardness - not hurrying - and on the bit collected and developing into extended trot or canter .... ? From passage that's not the forward and out behind piaffe we see nowadays but a true and beautiful sweeping natural passage? And from a true, sitting, piaffe? He can do capriole from piaffe ....

    I will add a little bit. A horse carrying a 12 stone rider over a 6 foot fence develops 160 bhp. Sorry - you will have to do the conversions. Maybe convert "impulsion" to "horsepower"? Relating impulsion to "time in the air" isn't really so silly in that context.

    umm so there is a pony i know, well two of them actually, that will walk up to a fence, higher than they are at the wither and then jump it from a standing start, so kind of wonder where the impulsion came from?

    watched Johnny Faye hold his horse to slower than walk speed, the higher the jump the slower he went between jumps and win a six bar event.

    was amazing to be sitting beside the jump as he let him go, the explosion of power took your breath away

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •