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    Jan 1970
    Baxter, Vic, Australia.

    Default Two questions

    First have you noticed that Coprice particularly Versatile have shrunken their pellets. Plus I cant remember if my previous bag was a 25kg as this one I brought yesterday was 20kg and noticeably the bags bottom has been sewn up a lot higher!
    Second question is I have always religiously wormed my horses every 12 weeks and rotated my wormers between the 2 variants of wormer paste. I have heard of people getting worm counts. But I did hear that due to the results of the worm cut is whether they worm their horses or not. I am not going to change what I do. As its worked really well for my current horses who I have had one close to 20 years . But not sure whether this practice of following worm counts is the best idea. Does the worm test cover all worms. What about the damage worms can do?
    Horses are my friends for life

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    Oct 2007
    sydney, nsw, australia.


    many companies are shrinking how much they put .... chook food, shavings and horse feed, yet the price is either the same or more?

    worming is a "can of worms"

    always worming with the same wormer over a long period ends up eliminating all the susceptible worms and the emergence of resistant ones to the wormer.

    same principle as constantly using 99% bacterial killing sanitiser's. end up with the super-bugs that are so commonly found in hospitals.

    it is a good idea to rotate different families of wormer to reduce this problem as well as doing worm counts so you are not continually dosing what might be increasingly resistant strains left.

    Hubby worked with Hugh Gordon..........

    He changed the sheep farmers life along with their sheep. BUT while the research on wormers went world wide. it was discovered among the thousands of sheep being used for this research, there were a small percentage that no amount of worm larvae introduced into them for dosing research were so immune to the worms they had none to eliminate with the drenches.

    Instead of keeping these sheep and breeding for worm resistance most were slaughtered as being useless for the research. one farm manager kept a ewe and a ram and successfully began a line of worm resistant stock and discovered in the case of the ram the majority of lambs from normal ewes inherited their sires resistance.

    over a few decades drench resistant worms emerged en mass and Hugh and staff were busy trying to find new lines of drenches to combat this.

    I well remember him saying to me one day. "Maybe we went the wrong route and should have concentrated instead on identifying and selecting for the worm resistant lines of sheep.

    this does occur in some horses as well.

    Hubby collected manure from many different properties , seeking to find if there were any thing in them that may prey on intestinal worm larve and nematophagous fungi were discovered.

    Wormalas blocks were manufactured as lick blocks to stock, sheep, horses and cattle, could then ingest them and thus be spread in their manure and eliminate a high percentage of any worm eggs emerging to reinfect them after being drenched to remove the adults.

    found it very very successful.

    a friends stallion Abdulla, was found every worm count was nil. as were many of his progeny
    Last edited by mindari; 03-07-20 at 10:59 AM.

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    sydney, nsw, australia.


    The efficacy of predatory fungi on the control of gastrointestinal parasites in domestic and wild animals – a systematic review

    Author links open overlay panelM.Canhão-DiasaA.Paz-SilvabL.M.Madeira de Carvalhoa

    aCIISA – Centre for Interdisciplinary Research in Animal Health, Faculty of Veterinary Medicine, University of Lisbon, Lisbon, PortugalbControl of Parasites Group (COPAR, GI-2120), Department of Animal Pathology, Faculty of Veterinary, University of Santiago de Compostela, Lugo, Spain

    Received 22 February 2020, Revised 21 June 2020, Accepted 22 June 2020, Available online 27 June 2020.

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    •Systematic review delivering robust evidence on Biological Control of parasites
    •New insights on the efficacy of predatory fungi
    •New fungi products as promising tools for gastrointestinal parasite control



    Gastrointestinal parasites like nematodes are associated with significant impacts on animal health, causing poor growth rates, diseases and even death. Traditional parasite control includes the use of anthelmintic drugs, albeit being associated with drug resistance and ecotoxicity. In the last decade, biological control of parasites using nematophagous or predatory fungi has been increasingly studied, although systematic evidence of its efficacy is still lacking. The aim of this work was to assess the evidence of efficacy of nematophagous fungi in the control of nematodes and other gastrointestinal parasites in different animal species.


    Using the PICO method (Population, Intervention, Comparison and Outcomes), we performed a systematic review on the subject to search for original papers published between January 2006 and October 2019, written in English, and indexed in PubMed/Medline. Medical Subject Headings (MeSH) terms were used in the syntax. Papers were selected for detailed review based on title and abstract. Inclusion and exclusion criteria were applied, and relevant data were collected from the remaining papers.


    The literature search retrieved 616 papers. Eighty-nine were submitted to a detailed review. In the end, 53 papers were included in the analysis. The studies were very heterogeneous, using different fungi, doses, frequency of administration, duration of treatment, host animals, and target parasites. Considering the 53 papers, 44 studies (83% of the interventions) showed efficacy, with only 9 studies (17%) showing no significant differences when compared to control.


    With the increasing hazards of drug resistance and ecotoxicity, biological control with predatory fungi stands out as a good tool for future parasite management, whether as a complementary treatment or as an alternative to standard parasite control.


    Biological control
    Duddingtonia flagrans
    Gastrointestinal parasites
    Predatory fungi

    We found feeding the wormalas blocks containing the Fungi, after worming, meant stock remained worm free for years. so did not require drenching again... But that only worked as long as no new animals were
    I understand they are no longer made. but I read somewhere there is a differently named product available but cant remember the name at the moment
    Last edited by mindari; 30-06-20 at 10:47 AM.


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